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[WeatherPhil]

Haha I ended up with 16" of snow about a week before May 1. I have ever seen anything like this, MAR was so warm the fireflies and crickets were out..and now Friday looks like another 80 degree day..lolz.

[Craig-OmahaWx]

[MountainManMike]

And yet global temps are still .061 C below average for the year so far.

http://www.twitter.c...9/photo/1/large

[WeatherPhil]

2012 in my opinion should be a warm year overall, it isn't until we head into the cold season of 2012-13 that things start happening. The warm US is a product of the whacked out general circulation, we haven't seen a latitudinal transport configuration like this since..awhile.

[Geos]

And yet global temps are still .061 C below average for the year so far.

http://www.twitter.c...9/photo/1/large

Yeah... we're the only geographic area with a positive anomaly across the northern Hemisphere!

[MountainManMike]

So with this change, how will it affect el nino's? La nina's? Should we expect the same outcomes out of them as we always have? Will it just mean more la nina's?

[WeatherPhil]

So with this change, how will it affect el nino's? La nina's? Should we expect the same outcomes out of them as we always have? Will it just mean more la nina's?

Initially it probably signals a shutdown of ENSO amplitude, (much weaker ENSOs), but La Nina should predominate as it always does during periods with lower solar wind pressure.

[Craig-OmahaWx]

This is probably the most interesting topic I've ever seen at this forum, thanks for keeping it updated!

[WeatherPhil]

Thankyou for reading. I expect heavy skepticism given the magnitude of what I'm predicting, but just watch for yourself the process unfold quickly.

[Craig-OmahaWx]

Could you elaborate more so on this?

"2012 in my opinion should be a warm year overall, it isn't until we head into the cold season of 2012-13 that things start happening. The warm US is a product of the whacked out general circulation, we haven't seen a latitudinal transport configuration like this since..awhile. "

What do you mean part of a product of the whacked out general circulation?

[WeatherPhil]

Could you elaborate more so on this?

"2012 in my opinion should be a warm year overall, it isn't until we head into the cold season of 2012-13 that things start happening. The warm US is a product of the whacked out general circulation, we haven't seen a latitudinal transport configuration like this since..awhile. "

What do you mean part of a product of the whacked out general circulation?

It is very complicated phenomenon. Without dribbling out a bunch of hard-to-understand acronyms, basically the rate, magnitude, and location of meridional heat transport/pumps is what I am referring to.

[Geos]

Interesting articles which are relevant to the conversation. http://iceagenow.inf...astrophysicist/
http://iceagenow.inf...age-2800-years/

[WeatherPhil]

Interesting site.

The 2nd link mentions the 1450yr bond cycles (1440yrs is within the error bounds) which as I mentioned we are entering the next one now.

Also mentions the fact that all of the cycles are coming together.

22yr Hale
179yr barycentric
1450yr Bond
23,000yr precession
25,800yr plane
100,000yr ice age (when all solar-planetary cycles converge as they are now).

[Geos]

Interesting site.

The 2nd link mentions the 1450yr bond cycles (1440yrs is within the error bounds) which as I mentioned we are entering the next one now.

Also mentions the fact that all of the cycles are coming together.

22yr Hale
179yr barycentric
1450yr Bond
23,000yr precession
25,800yr plane
100,000yr ice age (when all solar-planetary cycles converge as they are now).

Yeah Robert Felix is someone else that is on the same page regarding these cycles renewing or ending etc.
I've read his first book - Not by Fire, but by Ice. Very good and interesting book. Book is geared toward a rapid start and end to the ice ages. Covers magnetic reversals, solar cycles, and volcanism on a high scale - to name a few elements to getting an ice age started.

[snow_wizard]

And yet global temps are still .061 C below average for the year so far.

http://www.twitter.c...9/photo/1/large

Yeah...I just read that globally March was the coolest since 1999 in spite of the US torch.

[WeatherPhil]

This site should be helpful, I discovered this site a week or so ago and it is quite accurate, a must read. http://climatechange1.wordpress.com/

[Geos]

This site should be helpful, I discovered this site a week or so ago and it is quite accurate, a must read. http://climatechange1.wordpress.com/

Great web page! Been reading through it a bit at a time. Very long, but pack full of information.

Off topic a little, but it is snowing in the former Yugoslavia! http://www.go2bjelas...id=31&Itemid=31

Europe has been in a really cool/wet patten this month.

[Geos]

An article that was just posted about the waning solar activity anticipated later in the year. "We could be at the doorstep of another Ice Age"

http://nextgrandmini...nother-ice-age/

[stuffradio]

Until something happens to either extreme, it's fear mongering. BUT, it is still useful to be somewhat prepared or at least somewhat plan. Not sure what you would plan if it gets colder. What does it mean, we stay a high of 50 F or 10 C longer throughout the year? As someone trying to get more and more into growing vegetables because it's fun, and saves money, this would help with cold weather crops. Before, you guys have said it would get drier in my area, which is fine, because I can run around the block without a coat and shorts at 40F, especially if it's sunny and not feel super cold.

[Geos]

Until something happens to either extreme, it's fear mongering. BUT, it is still useful to be somewhat prepared or at least somewhat plan. Not sure what you would plan if it gets colder. What does it mean, we stay a high of 50 F or 10 C longer throughout the year? As someone trying to get more and more into growing vegetables because it's fun, and saves money, this would help with cold weather crops. Before, you guys have said it would get drier in my area, which is fine, because I can run around the block without a coat and shorts at 40F, especially if it's sunny and not feel super cold.

It would be useful to know how to grow veggies and such. Of course knowing how to do that no matter what is useful. Other events can interrupt food supplies and future higher prices may make growing some things more economical for households. A greenhouse is not a bad idea either!